Tacoma vs. new Ranger

I have to disagree man. The technology in the Toyota third gens is pretty phenomenal.
Ford has the ecopoop, which will scoot along, but it has that terrible intermittent stop/start technology that has to be turned off. The 3.5 Atkinson in the Taco is pretty technologically advanced.
They have their own version of crawl control. It seems a little easier to engage but nothing that impressive. (I haven’t tried it off road in the Ford so I can’t speak for the capability).
As far as Entune vs. Ford Sync, they both have pluses and minuses. I have the Sync in an 18 Edge and I honestly think the Entune is easier to navigate. You can control fan speeds and temperatures with the Sync, but if we’re too lazy to turn a knob there’s an issue. Lol.
As far as the Driver Information Center in the Ford (including the Lariat) it is lacking compared to the Toyota.
Comfort goes to Ford hands down. It always has though. Toyota’s have never been known for comfort.
Don’t get me wrong. I was impressed by the Ford. But I’d be afraid to get one until I see the resell value and if there are any issues. Plus the price is pretty high for a truck that will almost definitely depreciate in record time.
 
Bogunn said:
I have to disagree man. The technology in the Toyota third gens is pretty phenomenal.
Ford has the ecopoop, which will scoot along, but it has that terrible intermittent stop/start technology that has to be turned off. The 3.5 Atkinson in the Taco is pretty technologically advanced.
They have their own version of crawl control. It seems a little easier to engage but nothing that impressive. (I haven’t tried it off road in the Ford so I can’t speak for the capability).
As far as Entune vs. Ford Sync, they both have pluses and minuses. I have the Sync in an 18 Edge and I honestly think the Entune is easier to navigate. You can control fan speeds and temperatures with the Sync, but if we’re too lazy to turn a knob there’s an issue. Lol.
As far as the Driver Information Center in the Ford (including the Lariat) it is lacking compared to the Toyota.
Comfort goes to Ford hands down. It always has though. Toyota’s have never been known for comfort.
Don’t get me wrong. I was impressed by the Ford. But I’d be afraid to get one until I see the resell value and if there are any issues. Plus the price is pretty high for a truck that will almost definitely depreciate in record time.
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Now THAT is a review! [emoji106]
 
Joisey said:
I respectfully disagree about Ford comfort. A F150 and an Exploder were marginal at best. My Tacoma seats envelope what is left of my back in total support and comfort. I won't get into Fords self ejecting spark plugs.
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I've always thought Tacoma's fit me really nicely as well, but I'm 5'6" and fairly thin... I can understand where a tall person wouldn't like it though.
Lumbar adjustment is pretty nice in the turd gen.
 
I'm 5'7" with a ruined back. The Tacoma seats are heaven to me. If you're 6 foot tall and weigh 245 with a 40 inch waist, look at the Tundra.

My GMC bucket seats were great, but no lumbar support and frankly, the seats were a bit too wide for me. I'm sure they would fit a taller/larger person very well.

I drive from here to WV, 9 hours plus a few minutes, with one stop for gas, to pee, and have a fast lunch in the truck that I bought along. With the GMC I was stiff at the end of the trip when I tried to stand. The Toyota makes it seem like I just drove around the block. Now if they could just bring the horsepower and torque curve down to where it is useable in a pickup truck....
 
I had a 1968 F250 4 wd with the 390 V8 4 speed and manual transfer case and manual hubs of course. I bought it use with 36K on it. Put tires, hoses and brakes on the truck and ran the chitt out of it for the next 90K miles. The tires were an off brand off road tread and were 6 ply. Needless to say the truck rode like, well, a truck. It had a heater, two speed windshield wipers and a blank plate where the optional radio would go.

The heater, if left on high, would allow you to broil steaks on the seat. Vent windows kept you cool. The bench seat was large enough to start and raise a family on. Plenty of spring and padding on the seat made it possible to use the truck for what it was intended, off road. And it did that well, very very well. Brakes would hold so well that the paint on the hood would wrinkle.

The oil pan was tucked up and defendend by the front axle, so no skid plate was needed. The transfer case and transmission were cast iron and kept in a similar high position. It was a truck, looked like a truck and behaved like a truck. It was the only Ford that ever impressed me. Easy to work on and maintian. As close to bulletproof as is humanly possible. Horsepower and torque started at idle and never gave up. If I kept my foot out of it, I got 18 mpg highway. A rubber mat adorned the floor. Get it covered with mud and hose it out. No padding underneath to hold water.

Now we have stereo with an amp, leather interior, aluminum wheels, tinted windows and every option that you can get in a high end pleasure car. And chitt breaks down with a boring regularity. And gets stuck. Or won't start. Or lacks horsepower and or torque.

We, the consumers,have neutered and killed the truck.
 
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