The 2017 TRD Pro Tacoma is here!!!

Discussion in 'General Tacoma Discussion' started by jgallegos1, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    I have ATRAC which does control the brakes to each individual wheel. The system cannot control the amount of throttle going to each wheel because there is one engine throttle for the entire drivetrain, not an individual engine with it's own throttle for each wheel. The speed knob just sets a speed at which you want to go which can be set using my foot.

    MTS is just volume control for the brake distribution so you get that with your 44 seconds of an unrealistic test up a mountain.

    In the end the systems can get you stuck because they are not constant like a locker. I've demonstrated before just how you can lose momentum with the system on because you have to lose traction in order for it to work. Hit the locker and went up the same obstacle without a hiccup. It's a decent system but nowhere near a substitute for a real locker. Also don't let it trigger constantly because they system can overheat and leave you with open diffs. <---That one is in the manual you probably didn't read.

    This must be your first vehicle or just first 4wd vehicle. Did you roll into the dealer and say "I want that one" and just throw money out?
     
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  3. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    My paper nut sack is better than yours.
     
  4. rec2570

    rec2570 Well-Known Member

    Once again, what are you doing here?
     
  5. Mjp2

    Mjp2 Well-Known Member

    Ur ol lady was mumbling otherwise lastnight while popping mine in her face cavity
     
  6. TacoRick

    TacoRick Well-Known Member

    Nope, second off roader of my own, but I did plenty of wheeling when I was younger and building game fences, it was part of the job.

    You need to learn more about crawl control. If you want to argue about how it functions then take it up with the engineers who designed it. Just be prepared to be put in your place. Both throttle and brakes are controlled at each wheel, much like AutoLSD.
     
  7. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    Auto LSD only controls the brakes. The manual specifically states there is no throttle control in ALSD mode. Of course things may have change since ATRAC was introduced in 2009 and the new truck but Toyota doesn't change things like that. The brake booster/master cylinder/abs distribution pump in your 16 is the same part number as the 09 Tacoma.

    How can you control throttle at each wheel when there is only one throttle and one engine? Manipulating the throttle would affect all wheels just like with my foot.

    From Toyota's site:

    "Crawl Control
    When the trail gets challenging, Tacoma TRD Off-Road’s Crawl Control (CRAWL) 25 is here to help you conquer your off-road adventure. This advanced system automatically modulates the throttle and brakes on five low-speed settings so you can keep your focus on navigating across difficult terrain."

    Says throttle not throttles on individual wheels and the 5 settings is the vehicle speed. Do you want turtle or rabbit speed?

    "Multi-terrain Select

    Tacoma TRD Off-Road features Multi-terrain Select. With five modes to choose from, this system helps regulate wheelspin by automatically adjusting the engine throttle and traction control. When combined with standard Goodyear Wrangler® tires with tough Kevlar® construction, Multi-terrain Select helps improve traction dramatically, meaning you can get back to the fun more quickly."

    Again says one throttle. The MTS knobs just adjusts the intensity like a volume knob. My foot can control the throttle.

    ATRAC controls the brakes in the same manor but with only one intensity level. There is no throttle control with ATRAC but that's fine since my foot works.

    Click learning mode to see how ATRAC and ALSD works: http://www.majormedia2.com/4WDSimplifiedv5/4WD.html
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2016
  8. TacoRick

    TacoRick Well-Known Member

    The wheel(s) getting brakes doesn't get throttle, and vice versa.
     
  9. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    I have since changed my response.

    They are still getting engine power though because there is no way to separate that wheel(s) from the rest of the drivetrain. The brakes are just slowing the wheel down (sometimes stopping it for an instate) so that engine power stops going through the path of least resistance and goes the other way which is hypothetically the wheel(s) with traction.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2016
  10. TacoRick

    TacoRick Well-Known Member

    Basically, yes.
     
  11. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    So then I was right all along. See???? I'm an asshole for fun but I know what I'm talking about most of the time...some of the time.
     
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  12. rec2570

    rec2570 Well-Known Member

    I agree, you're an asshole:)
     
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  13. Mike991GTS

    Mike991GTS Well-Known Member

    ImageUploadedByTaco Forum1475391138.756711.jpg 4x4 ,6 spd MT, A Tacoma is a Tacoma,the truck really hasn't changed too much. Its not for everybody, but it works great hauling things around. I love my new truck. The Honda iam sure is great also, but for me its a Taco for life!!
     
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  14. Mjp2

    Mjp2 Well-Known Member

    HahahahahahHaahahhhahahahaahahhahahah......wait, no.
    Commence... hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha koolaides
     
  15. Scuzzy

    Scuzzy Well-Known Member

    Roflmmfao...This has become the biggest joke of a string by "experts" that quote sales brochures, part manuals and magazine articles. When one of the experts can actually show work done and real world experience, then maybe this will become a better informative string... ImageUploadedByTaco Forum1475434214.672578.jpg ImageUploadedByTaco Forum1475434294.484126.jpg Love the Porsche...
     
  16. Mjp2

    Mjp2 Well-Known Member

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  17. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    So if I just post pictures I can be an expert too? Ok...

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    Can I haz experts status now?
     
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  18. rec2570

    rec2570 Well-Known Member

    You know it all. No one knows that better than you
     
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  19. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    I don't know it all but I speak on what I actually know. I stay quiet on what I don't know and admit when I'm wrong when I am wrong.
     
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  20. Mjp2

    Mjp2 Well-Known Member

    Anyone else read this and somehow be reminded of the Mr.Ed intro?
     
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  21. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    The famous Mr. Ed.
     
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