Top Engine and Fuel Injection Cleaning

Discussion in 'Maintenance' started by johndyoung, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. johndyoung

    johndyoung New Member

    I took my 2016 Tacoma in for the 30,000 mile check yesterday. In addition to the items on the Toyota 30,000 check in the maintenance manual, the dealer added a Top Engine and Fuel Injection Cleaning. It cost $240.00.

    I am wondering if anyone else has had this item added to their mileage check. I am also wondering what people think about the value of a Top Engine and Fuel Injection Cleaning.

    I will appreciate all of your thoughts on this.
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  3. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Negative Nancy

    It's a scam. There's a fuel filter in the tank that keeps trash out of the pump. There would be none in the lines.
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  4. Crawdad

    Crawdad Well-Known Member

    Aren't TuRD gens supposed to be "self cleaning" injectors? Something about switching between direct and port injection?

    I still call scam, especially for the price...
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  5. kp.taco

    kp.taco Well-Known Member

    I've worked at a toyota dealer. They just pull the air cleaner Hose and spray some throttle body cleaner in there. That's it.
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  6. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum.
    Did you pay for and have that service completed or they only recommended it?
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  7. OP

    johndyoung New Member

    It was represented to me that this was part of the 30,000 check so I authorized it. As I was driving home, I thought something is not right about this and the amount it cost. So when I got home I looked in the maintenance manual and saw it was not on the list. So I called the dealer and they refunded the cost.
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  8. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    They almost got you.
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  9. Bogunn

    Bogunn Well-Known Member

    Agreed man. That sounds sketchy.
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  10. jdr3366

    jdr3366 Well-Known Member

    If you don't mind, where and who is this dealer?
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  11. taco15bob

    taco15bob New Member

    Dealer scam, big time. Find a good independent Toyota mechanic.
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  12. BigMau

    BigMau Well-Known Member

    Dealer scam. Maybe Timmy the Toolman "seafoamed" your truck??
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  13. OP

    johndyoung New Member

    I would rather not mention the name of the dealer.
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  14. mcklovin77

    mcklovin77 Well-Known Member

    Whatever you do never put seafoam in your oil if you have high mileage, only through your intake or feul tank. Seafoam will clean the hell out of your engine and your valves will never seat right. I had to have my heads/new valve seats redone after using seafoam. Lesson learned.
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  15. kp.taco

    kp.taco Well-Known Member

    I've always been to scared to try this even through the throttle body.. I did run a can through the gas tank and didn't notice anything but there was never a problem to begin with..
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  16. bdarnold12

    bdarnold12 Well-Known Member

    I have always used top tier gas and whenever id thick about it run a shot of either Lucas, Amsoil, or Red line fuel treatment thru the tank. Amsoil and redline are better cleaners with some top oiling abilities and lucas is more of a top oiler with cleaning abilities. That being said ive never had any issues nor had the idea that I needed to clean my throttle body or any other cleaning.
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  17. Ovidiu Ifrim

    Ovidiu Ifrim Member

    I run good gas too but my turd gen had a long running problem with knocking, hesitation, and lugging. Installed a oil catch can in the pcv system and had a mechanic spray in the carb cleaner through that vacuum hose. Yep, whole new engine afterwards. I guess it depends on whether your particular engine has problems or not.
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  18. bdarnold12

    bdarnold12 Well-Known Member

    Speaking of catch cans, I ran one on my ram hemi because it was almost a must. Are they as important on a taco?
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  19. Ovidiu Ifrim

    Ovidiu Ifrim Member

    Mechanic said the oil coming back in thru the pcv hose causes knocking. The dual injectors won't help with that. And the pcv hose was definitely wet with oil when we removed it. Also, I think this engine is based on the lexus 3.5, which requires premium only. A lot of people complain about knocking on the turd gen so I guess it makes sense.
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  20. bdarnold12

    bdarnold12 Well-Known Member

    I noticed on my hemi that I collected a lot more in the catch can when I was running Red line than when I was running either m1 or Amsoil. It didn't use any oil on any of them, just a difference in the catch can.
    Also, my taco deffinately runs better and smoother on premium 93 gas. The first tank I would assume was regular beings it was my free tank from the dealer and I was kinda concerned because it was not smooth at all and a dead spot right off idle. The first couple of tanks I put in were mid grade 89 and that really helped it, the last couple of tanks have been premium 93 and its been doing great, runs like I think it should now.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
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  21. Ovidiu Ifrim

    Ovidiu Ifrim Member

    The engine is designed for premium. They just reprogrammed it a little to back off on the engine timing when knocking is detected. Doesn't always work, and produces that hated hesitation we manual drivers notice.

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