issues with 2016 Tacoma

I could see Toyo reps lying about an update either way. They could be lying about how there is an update that doesn't exist, or they could be telling you there isn't one while they are updating it in the shop and you are drinking their free coffee.

Some of the issues might be hard to address. The constant shifting may be by design. It's annoying, but it might be exaclty what Toyo wants it to do in order to get the truck over the finish line of the emissions and mileage tests. If that is the case, they AREN'T going to change it. They can't or they will end up like VW.

As for the delay in shifting into D from R, you youngin's obviously never owned an old Chrysler product. I used to use the time that I had to wait for my Polara to shift into D when cold to put my seat belt on and finish reading the paper. The good news was, those Torqueflights were so tough, you could wait with the thing revved up to the point the valves were floating and the SOB would launch hard enough to make up any lost time waiting for it to go.
 
Fluid was a half a quart low. Didn't have the chance to start it from cold to see if eliminated the slipping when cold from R to D but I can say the transmission shifts much smoother after topping the fluid. Also tried cruise control and it does keep the highest gear at 75 mph not any erratic shifting from that moment that I drove it. It seems getting the tranny topped helps a lot. Get yours checked asap if you are experiencing the same issues
 
cgalloni said:
Fluid was a half a quart low. Didn't have the chance to start it from cold to see if eliminated the slipping when cold from R to D but I can say the transmission shifts much smoother after topping the fluid. Also tried cruise control and it does keep the highest gear at 75 mph not any erratic shifting from that moment that I drove it. It seems getting the tranny topped helps a lot. Get yours checked asap if you are experiencing the same issues
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I figured that was a problem I was advised by regional rep. There is definitely an update for the shifting issues. The constant shift issues will be resolved. As will the cruise control issues. Transmissions should all be checked by the Dealer. Regional rep stated he is in California at service reps orientation discussions and he was the one who told me to take the trucks in and make sure transmissions are full of fluid..


2016 Tacoma Trd Off-road. (Silver Bullet)
2015 Tacoma Sr5. (Polar Bear)
 
WiskyT said:
I could see Toyo reps lying about an update either way. They could be lying about how there is an update that doesn't exist, or they could be telling you there isn't one while they are updating it in the shop and you are drinking their free coffee.

Some of the issues might be hard to address. The constant shifting may be by design. It's annoying, but it might be exaclty what Toyo wants it to do in order to get the truck over the finish line of the emissions and mileage tests. If that is the case, they AREN'T going to change it. They can't or they will end up like VW.

As for the delay in shifting into D from R, you youngin's obviously never owned an old Chrysler product. I used to use the time that I had to wait for my Polara to shift into D when cold to put my seat belt on and finish reading the paper. The good news was, those Torqueflights were so tough, you could wait with the thing revved up to the point the valves were floating and the SOB would launch hard enough to make up any lost time waiting for it to go.
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Please be patient I am positive update coming soon. .. I the delay is supposed to be because of low transmission fluid. Should not lunge fwd. I am sure Toyota is def not like the Chrysler. Let's wat to see is the previous poster see a any difference now that fluid was topped off. We have no dipstick as it is a sealed system. Pressure is everything..


2016 Tacoma Trd Off-road. (Silver Bullet)
2015 Tacoma Sr5. (Polar Bear)
 
Toyota is not Chrysler, what is that supposed to mean? Toyo is the company that supposedly is placing thousands of vehicles into service to paying customers with low trans fluid? Toyo is the company that can't put new software updates into the field when it is a simple process? So I am to believe that all of these unhappy customers are being left unhappy for the lack of a pint of trans fluid and/or a software update?

So, low trans fluid is causing driveability issues and would also likely lead to premature trans failure. If the fluid is so low that the transmission is shifting improperly, what does that mean for the clutch packs? And if such a simple cause is the problem, why not just adjust the fluid levels for all of the people having problems in the first place?

I'm not buying this. I believe Taco Cruiser was told this, but I don't believe that a pint of fluid is the simple fix to all of these problems or the dealers would be performing this fix right off the bat.
 
Problems are going to be present no matter what especially if it is a new engine and new transmission. I was expecting this, but what i was not expecting is the lack of responsibility from Toyota to admit the trucks are being delivered without the proper ATF measurement. Everybody that has checked their fluids is missing at least half a quart. That may not seen as much but it does make a difference especially when the tranny is Cold. I was told by the Master mechanic that filled my truck than these new smart transmissions have a break in period and that the most recent fluid W.S being used since 2004 in all Toyota trucks takes more time to warm up because of the viscosity. People we have to be patient I am sure everything is going to be resolved, just give it time. As far as the update for the tranny I was told that is not coming anytime soon but maybe the reps that i know are wrong , who knows.. Hopefully everything will be fine
 
Taco Cruiser, thank you for updates. I wont bash the messenger as your posts are obviously made to "help" us new owners. Keep up the good work Taco!
 
Well, After topping the fluid my truck is still having the same lag from R to D when is Cold. I don't know what else to do but to leave the freaking truck like that. I guess it is normal for this tranny , if it breaks then we will see
 
Have lurching issue too. At dealer now, 1 qrt low on tranny fluid! Ill report back next week if added fluid helped my issue.
 
Anyone having trouble with the blind spot lights staying on? Took it to dealer but they said couldn't duplicate the problem. Took pic while truck was in park going back to dealer.
 
I have about 2700 miles on my Tacoma with auto trans in drive and reverse it surges enough to see it on the tach. this is when idling to park or just rolling no throttle. it also sometimes has a harsh downshift just before stopping.in normal driving I do not like how the trans shifts its very vague and unresponsive. I took to dealer Tuesday feb 2 they said there was no fault codes and would have to keep over night because trans must be between 113 and 120 degrees to scan for fluid level. since there is no dip stick .Wednesday feb 3 dealer said they could not duplicate surging but the trans was 3/4 quart low they topped off trans. I drove it home and it still surges. I am not a happy camper. i hope there is a fix for this issue soon
 
WiskyT said:
Toyota is not Chrysler, what is that supposed to mean? Toyo is the company that supposedly is placing thousands of vehicles into service to paying customers with low trans fluid? Toyo is the company that can't put new software updates into the field when it is a simple process? So I am to believe that all of these unhappy customers are being left unhappy for the lack of a pint of trans fluid and/or a software update?

So, low trans fluid is causing driveability issues and would also likely lead to premature trans failure. If the fluid is so low that the transmission is shifting improperly, what does that mean for the clutch packs? And if such a simple cause is the problem, why not just adjust the fluid levels for all of the people having problems in the first place?

I'm not buying this. I believe Taco Cruiser was told this, but I don't believe that a pint of fluid is the simple fix to all of these problems or the dealers would be performing this fix right off the bat.
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Since you don't believe what is be told by me. Do something. Like call your regional service rep then you can whine all you want .. I'm not expressing an opinion I am stating a fact. If your having issues then take your truck in and have them check your fluid and ask for yourself.. I am just trying to help by explains facts. You either except it or do something about it like CALL THE REP OR GO INTO YOUR LOCAL SERVICE DEBT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF..
 
taco cruiser said:
Since you don't believe what is be told by me. Do something. Like call your regional service rep then you can whine all you want .. I'm not expressing an opinion I am stating a fact. If your having issues then take your truck in and have them check your fluid and ask for yourself.. I am just trying to help by explains facts. You either except it or do something about it like CALL THE REP OR GO INTO YOUR LOCAL SERVICE DEPT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF BEFORE YOU MAKE A DONKEY OF YOURSELF ON HERE. SIMPLE ENOUGH I BELIEVE. CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT CAN'T MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO FIX YOUR TRUCK. WOW. ..
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Day 1 after tranny fluid topoff. No lurching this morning. Shifts are smoother too. My dealer is also aware of shift happy complaints and cruise control issues where truck shifts into 4th and wont shift to 5th with cruise on. No updates available "yet" but he's aware and reporting it to corporate. Im confident an update will fix the cruise control issue when its available.
 
taco cruiser said:
Since you don't believe what is be told by me. Do something. Like call your regional service rep then you can whine all you want .. I'm not expressing an opinion I am stating a fact. If your having issues then take your truck in and have them check your fluid and ask for yourself.. I am just trying to help by explains facts. You either except it or do something about it like CALL THE REP OR GO INTO YOUR LOCAL SERVICE DEBT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF..
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Dude, seriously, lighten up. First of all, I don't have any issues. I have a '15 and it's fine. Second, the info you are relating doesn't pass the smell test. There are numerous complaints about different problems and somehow they are all getting muddied into one problem that has two fixes.

Excessive shifting is different than "lurching" or not going into Drive etc. Excessive shifting is by design. Engines run more efficiently at a fixed RPM. In order to keep the engine at it's optimum RPM, the trans will shift constantly. It's why all vehicles are coming with more and more gears or an infinite number of gears known as a CVT. If Toyo simply plugs in different shift parameters, it WILL CHANGE the miles per gallon and emissions. The EPA WILL NOT ALLOW this without re-certifying the model. Can this be done? Maybe. First, Toyo would have to find a way to meet the EPA standards while improving the drive-ability. If they could have done this easily, they would have made the trucks like that in the first place. Then, they would have to run the truck through the EPA certification process and then update the computers on the trucks.

This is happening all across the board with consumer products. 15 years ago, I got a new dishwasher. The thing was great. No matter what you through in it, the dishes came out spotless like a commercial. 4 yeas later, I bought a new house and spec'd out the EXACT SAME DISHWAHER down the the last digit on the model number. Guess what? It sucks. It's noisy and if you don't wash the dishes by hand first, they come out dirty. Being under warranty, I got the manufacturer out to the house to "fix" it. Guess what? You can't because it's working properly. In the time between the first and second washers I bought, the EPA changed the standards and now they pretty much have to use no water or electricity.

It's like the 1.6 gallon toilets. Some asshole in Washington 20 years ago decided that toilets using water was bad, and now you have to flush the damn things 3 times.

As for low trans fluid, how the effe could people who assemble precision engine components not be smart enough to figure out how to fill the proper volume of trans fluid? Why are they not adjusting the fluid level when an owner comes in with a complaint? Notice how many posters are still having shifting problems even after getting fluid level adjusted?

So yeah, they could change the shift points with an update and it probably wouldn't take 5 minutes to come up with the new code if they don't already have it, but that is basically what VW did. They used one configuration to pass the EPA tests, and then sent a different one out on the road to make the customers happy. Keep in mind how likely the EPA is going to be to help Toyo. The govt went after Toyo tooth and nail over the BS sudden acceleration crap and tried to run them out of business while helping GM cover up the ignition switch problem that has resulted in something like 30 deaths. Toyo is GM's biggest competitor. Toyo is a non-union company. GM is UAW and owned by obama and his chronies. The govt isn't going to do anything to help Toyo dominate GM.
 
Buy a baby Duramax Colorado crew like I'm probably doing for my DD getting 31 mpg on the highway at 65,000-80,000 I drive will be welcomed compared to my 12-14 with my taco!
 
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