Zero W Thirty

Discussion in 'General Tacoma Discussion' started by silverT, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    I changed oil to a 0W30
    In short it's better, but advantages occur under conditions that don't occur 12 months a year
    The north country zero and below is common wile 5 w 30 works well any way .
    0W30 starts motor even better & even feels smoother ( if it's even possible )
    So for cold starting 5W30 is fine ....... 0W30 is king .
    I found with MPG
    My Tacoma gets great MPG on the HWY I can pull from 27 to 28.8 depending on how relaxed I drive
    If I go 55 to 60 I will get 28.8 fully warmed up 0w30 or 5w30 same MPG
    Short trip cold weather 0 W 30 blows 5w30 out the door
    during the summer I'll put in $20 & drive all over (many miles)
    at one point I say heck I drove alot for $20 ,that is during the summer
    As the winter cool rolled in I was noticing Gas MPG was BAD like $10 per day I had a hunch
    and the hunch was short trip cold so I excepted it .( thats winter I figured ) .
    Now with 0W30 I put in $20 and getting that same MPG as summer I'm at day 3 still have plenty of fuel
    0W30 is fantastic for short trip cold weather use .
    Most likely this will be the oil I use year round
    unless I notice an issue during summer
    So till further notice Mobil one 0 w 30 is my oil
     
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  3. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Well-Known Member

    Isn't 0W20 specified?
     
  4. AbsurdBuffalo

    AbsurdBuffalo Well-Known Member

    It is on the 18 I just picked up last week. Don't know why it'd be different for 16 or 17.
     
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  5. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    What’s up with that.
     
  6. AbsurdBuffalo

    AbsurdBuffalo Well-Known Member

    What's up with what?
     
  7. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    What you are stating.
    The 2016 and 2017 Tacoma manufactures suggestion for OEM oil is 5w30 and the 2018 with the same engine is 0w20?
    What’s up with that?
     
  8. AbsurdBuffalo

    AbsurdBuffalo Well-Known Member

    Beats me. That's what the 2018 says to feed it with. Didn't know 16 and 17 were different...

    Maybe it's a regional thing? I'm in Southern Idaho... 20171228_153255.jpg
     
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  9. Bogunn

    Bogunn Well-Known Member

    The 16 and 17 take 0W20 too.
     
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  10. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    2008 calls for 5w30 and 0w30 - meets that spec at the most important area ,normal warmed up running conditions as 30 weight
    at start up running zero weight has to lend to less motor wear & it is a 30 weight when needed
    If 2018 calls for 0W20 ,it's the 20 weight aspect you have to wonder about If Toyota tightened up the tolerances then a 20 weight is needed
    it's said the engineers do the test's - invest the money .& what they recommend is best .
    The real news of requiring a 0 w 20 is auto manufactures have crossed the divide
    Zero weights are best gracefully formulated with synthetic
    or at least synthetic blend , conventional oil is being replaced
    this is just the beginning
    future oil requirements are heading
    for 0 w 16 and even 0w8
    I suspect some day maybe in 10 years , mentioning synthetic will not be necessary as it will just be the Norm & The only way to make it for the application
    But the future will be listed as the term GROUP and a higher
    group number, equals a more refined base stock .
    Group 4 as well as 5 is a pure synthetic
    and anything below that is truly not a synthetic oil,
    but Group 3 Base oils are allowed to be called synthetic
    https://noln.net/2017/06/30/skinny-ow-16-oil/

    IMO if it calls for 0w20 use it
    hot weather 5w20 would logically be ok
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2017
  11. mcklovin77

    mcklovin77 Well-Known Member

    If anyone lives in southern Missouri, I get synthetic 0w20 for free. Only 2-3 gallons of leftovers at a time when I haul it.
     
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  12. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Well-Known Member

    As best I can tell, the 4.0 specified 5W-30, the 3.5 specifies 0W-20. For what it is worth, the 5.7 in the Tundra specified 0W-20 from its intro in 2007.
     
  13. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    My 2007 Tundra took 0w20
     
  14. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    Well I can't stress this to much it's around zero and 12 degree highs . My short trip Gas Mileage is fantastic What I suspect now is
    trips of 10 to 15 miles in winter is short trip as engine is warmed up proper after 10 to 15 miles till it is warmed up nice a five weight has more resistance then zero weight
    I can't see how in summer a zero weight will add any fuel MPG gain
    but who knows For sure Mobile One 0w30 is no snake oil
     
  15. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    Well a warm spell and just about 60 compared to last weeks below zero .
    0W30 is fast becoming the only oil ill ever use , smooth as silk I gotta say
    Holy Crap is the 4.0 smooth
     
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  16. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    My over all view of the 0w30
    if your auto calls for a - 5 / 10 w 30 you can use 0w30 & particular cold north territory will benefit
    if 0w price was same price of 5w I'd use it all year but I see no need to spend $6 more for a synthetic 0w in summer
    when a 5w synthetic works as well for the warm weather . So my ritual will be
    Synthetic 5w for April to Nov and Dec to March 0w
    At 5000 miles the oil change lite kicks on as I approach 6000 miles I change
    240,432 miles at this point
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2018
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  17. kp.taco

    kp.taco Well-Known Member

    I hope I get 240k out of mine..
     
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  18. Bogunn

    Bogunn Well-Known Member

    Me too. The 3.5 is still too new to have enough of them with high mileage to tell how long they’ll run.
     
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  19. kp.taco

    kp.taco Well-Known Member

    I saw one online. 2016 with 55k . That's the most I've seen so far
     
  20. OR17TRD

    OR17TRD Well-Known Member

    25k a year that’s getting up there.
     
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  21. OP
    silverT

    silverT Well-Known Member

    I put on 21,000 since last year -
    This year I needed 2 Tires
    one carry bearing
    and one strut


    Had lots of snow this year - No problem for the Taco
    ALSO
    I took on a 4 mile back road during a melting and unexpectedly hit mud for 3 miles
    it was rubbing the bottom of chassis ,
    I had my daughter with me and she kept saying are we gonna be OK
    I said Sure ;) wile I was white knuckled holding on for life
    and hunched over the steering wheel to get the best look of the road
    it floated over the mud , I was worried that I could get stuck but the 4.0 easily kept up the speed about 35 to 40 MPH
    I made sure to keep moving . The next day I went back in the daylight to see what I survived . Then I saw a truth
    year 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Stuck up to it's Axel
    My conclusion the Taco's long wheel base with light weight 2000 pounds less then the Dodge
    just floated over the Mess .
    I bet these Taco's with REAL Mud /snow tires are unstoppable
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2018
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